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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://cjwriter.com/2007/09/22/5-famous-misquotes-from-literature/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandela never used the Williamsom quote in his address..that is part of the myth. She even said so herself.

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: You're right, Greg, I didn't think to check it out further after Grace's comment, but I had a look on &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Williamson#Trivia" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; and it was never in Mandella's speech. Thanks for pointing it out.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandela never used the Williamsom quote in his address..that is part of the myth. She even said so herself.</p>
<p><strong>CJ: You&#8217;re right, Greg, I didn&#8217;t think to check it out further after Grace&#8217;s comment, but I had a look on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Williamson#Trivia" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> and it was never in Mandella&#8217;s speech. Thanks for pointing it out.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: amandzing</title>
		<link>http://cjwriter.com/2007/09/22/5-famous-misquotes-from-literature/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>amandzing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cj, the word that applies here is troll...delete the comments, it's your blog.

thank you to grace for the info, now i've also learned something :)

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Thanks, Amanda. I've deleted the other comments now; I'll leave the first one so he can't say I'm censoring him, but the whole thing was very strange. I mean, surely there are far worse nicknames than CJ!

And glad you liked the post. I love misquotes; I'll have to do another one of these soon. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cj, the word that applies here is troll&#8230;delete the comments, it&#8217;s your blog.</p>
<p>thank you to grace for the info, now i&#8217;ve also learned something <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<strong>CJ: Thanks, Amanda. I&#8217;ve deleted the other comments now; I&#8217;ll leave the first one so he can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m censoring him, but the whole thing was very strange. I mean, surely there are far worse nicknames than CJ!</p>
<p>And glad you liked the post. I love misquotes; I&#8217;ll have to do another one of these soon. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare you steal my name.

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Are you joking? It's a nickname; I was born &lt;em&gt;Christopher John&lt;/em&gt;.

Do you have a comment that's relevant to this post?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare you steal my name.</p>
<p><strong>CJ: Are you joking? It&#8217;s a nickname; I was born <em>Christopher John</em>.</p>
<p>Do you have a comment that&#8217;s relevant to this post?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's another fun mistake in John Keats: On First Looking into Chapmans's Homer.
John Keats compares his experience when reading Chapman's Homer for the first time to that of the famous spanish explorer Hernan Cortez when seeing the Pacific.  In fact, it wasn't Cortez who first saw the Pacific but was Vasco Nunez de Balboa, another spanish explorer of the 1500s.

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: That's another good one. I suppose more of an error than a misquote but not the sort of thing you'd expect from someone like John Keats! Thanks for stopping by. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another fun mistake in John Keats: On First Looking into Chapmans&#8217;s Homer.<br />
John Keats compares his experience when reading Chapman&#8217;s Homer for the first time to that of the famous spanish explorer Hernan Cortez when seeing the Pacific.  In fact, it wasn&#8217;t Cortez who first saw the Pacific but was Vasco Nunez de Balboa, another spanish explorer of the 1500s.</p>
<p><strong>CJ: That&#8217;s another good one. I suppose more of an error than a misquote but not the sort of thing you&#8217;d expect from someone like John Keats! Thanks for stopping by. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
		<link>http://cjwriter.com/2007/09/22/5-famous-misquotes-from-literature/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Lior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be worth to point out that Julius Caesar's famous quote "Et tu, Brute?" is actually from Shakespeare's play and does not have any proven historical basis as many believe (and as I believed not too long ago).

Impressive literary knowledge there, especially with the Sherlock Holmes books.

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Hi Lior, thanks for the comment. That's a good point about Julius Caesar; a lot of the misconceptions people have come from confusing the play with history, but it's understandable. We study the play but we only have bits and pieces from history. Plus it's great drama. ;)

I knew the Sherlock Holmes' one through my love of the books, but a couple like Coleridge's I picked up from various quote books I have. I love literature and looking at the history behind classic works, so I find these kinds of comparisons really interesting. Glad you found it interesting too. :P&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be worth to point out that Julius Caesar&#8217;s famous quote &#8220;Et tu, Brute?&#8221; is actually from Shakespeare&#8217;s play and does not have any proven historical basis as many believe (and as I believed not too long ago).</p>
<p>Impressive literary knowledge there, especially with the Sherlock Holmes books.</p>
<p><strong>CJ: Hi Lior, thanks for the comment. That&#8217;s a good point about Julius Caesar; a lot of the misconceptions people have come from confusing the play with history, but it&#8217;s understandable. We study the play but we only have bits and pieces from history. Plus it&#8217;s great drama. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I knew the Sherlock Holmes&#8217; one through my love of the books, but a couple like Coleridge&#8217;s I picked up from various quote books I have. I love literature and looking at the history behind classic works, so I find these kinds of comparisons really interesting. Glad you found it interesting too. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: sbh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my favorite misquotations is attributed (and correctly) to Walt Kelly.  In a forward to The Pogo Papers he wrote "Resolve, then, that on this very ground, with small flags waving and tiny blasts of tiny trumpets, we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours, he may be us."  This came to be misquoted as "We have met the enemy, and he is us," in which form Walt Kelly retrieved it and used it as a bit of dialog and as a book title.  And so the former misquotation is made genuine.

Also, the correct version of the line from Congreve's The Mourning Bride is "Musick has charms to soothe a savage breast"--not "hath" and not "beast".  (http://books.google.com/books?id=U3ACAAAAYAAJ&#38;printsec=titlepage#PPA9,M1)

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: I'd heard that about Kelly as well. I can't think of many other examples where an author has actually adopted a misquote and used it to his advantage like that. Perhaps it's a good way to respond.

You're right about Congreve's quote as well; that was a typing mistake on my part, rather than a factual error! I should have proofread it first. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite misquotations is attributed (and correctly) to Walt Kelly.  In a forward to The Pogo Papers he wrote &#8220;Resolve, then, that on this very ground, with small flags waving and tiny blasts of tiny trumpets, we shall meet the enemy, and not only may he be ours, he may be us.&#8221;  This came to be misquoted as &#8220;We have met the enemy, and he is us,&#8221; in which form Walt Kelly retrieved it and used it as a bit of dialog and as a book title.  And so the former misquotation is made genuine.</p>
<p>Also, the correct version of the line from Congreve&#8217;s The Mourning Bride is &#8220;Musick has charms to soothe a savage breast&#8221;&#8211;not &#8220;hath&#8221; and not &#8220;beast&#8221;.  (http://books.google.com/books?id=U3ACAAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=titlepage#PPA9,M1)</p>
<p><strong>CJ: I&#8217;d heard that about Kelly as well. I can&#8217;t think of many other examples where an author has actually adopted a misquote and used it to his advantage like that. Perhaps it&#8217;s a good way to respond.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right about Congreve&#8217;s quote as well; that was a typing mistake on my part, rather than a factual error! I should have proofread it first. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Holmes one doesn't bother me. It should, I'm usually a stickler for correct quotes (and can't abide people saying "without further adieu"), but it never feels like a misquote to me - or a quote at all (though I suppose it is an accurate quote from the movie?).

It feels, when people say it, that they are entering into the spirit of the books - speaking in character, as it were. And people entering into the spirit of books is usually to be encouraged.

Play it again, Sam...

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Hi Kathleen, thanks for the comment. I know what you mean about the Sherlock Holmes one; I'm a bit torn on it as well. Is it really a misquote? You can definitely make a case that they're just quoting the movie. And unlike the other quotes, it does capture the spirit of the books, which is very important these days.

The reason I consider it a misquote above the others is because it's entered the English language; it's almost become its own phrase and people use it who have never even read the books. It's taken on a life of its own when a lot of people don't even know what they're referencing! But that's really a testament to the character, so I can see it both ways. ;)

In the end I just love language and I'm fascinated by tracing where these kind of quotes come from. And anything that gets people thinking about their favourite writers is good with me! :D&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Holmes one doesn&#8217;t bother me. It should, I&#8217;m usually a stickler for correct quotes (and can&#8217;t abide people saying &#8220;without further adieu&#8221;), but it never feels like a misquote to me - or a quote at all (though I suppose it is an accurate quote from the movie?).</p>
<p>It feels, when people say it, that they are entering into the spirit of the books - speaking in character, as it were. And people entering into the spirit of books is usually to be encouraged.</p>
<p>Play it again, Sam&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>CJ: Hi Kathleen, thanks for the comment. I know what you mean about the Sherlock Holmes one; I&#8217;m a bit torn on it as well. Is it really a misquote? You can definitely make a case that they&#8217;re just quoting the movie. And unlike the other quotes, it does capture the spirit of the books, which is very important these days.</p>
<p>The reason I consider it a misquote above the others is because it&#8217;s entered the English language; it&#8217;s almost become its own phrase and people use it who have never even read the books. It&#8217;s taken on a life of its own when a lot of people don&#8217;t even know what they&#8217;re referencing! But that&#8217;s really a testament to the character, so I can see it both ways. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
In the end I just love language and I&#8217;m fascinated by tracing where these kind of quotes come from. And anything that gets people thinking about their favourite writers is good with me! <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Netty Gritty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Netty Gritty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it kind of feels funny! i um wanted to do something "similar" - misheard lyrics! when things are amiss, it's a lot of fun, probably because it helps us see at things from a different amgle than how it was originally meant to! :D

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: It does feel funny - particularly if you've been using some of them! Yeah, I'll admit it; I used to think it was "Elementary, my dear Watson". It was so much more fun! :P

Misheard lyrics would be a good one; you should definitely do it! I know one of the most famous is from Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" - a lot of people thought "while I kiss the sky" was "kiss this guy". Sacrilege! (Although Hendrix did goof around a lot, so maybe he did say it a couple of times.) ;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it kind of feels funny! i um wanted to do something &#8220;similar&#8221; - misheard lyrics! when things are amiss, it&#8217;s a lot of fun, probably because it helps us see at things from a different amgle than how it was originally meant to! <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<strong>CJ: It does feel funny - particularly if you&#8217;ve been using some of them! Yeah, I&#8217;ll admit it; I used to think it was &#8220;Elementary, my dear Watson&#8221;. It was so much more fun! <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Misheard lyrics would be a good one; you should definitely do it! I know one of the most famous is from Jimi Hendrix&#8217;s &#8220;Purple Haze&#8221; - a lot of people thought &#8220;while I kiss the sky&#8221; was &#8220;kiss this guy&#8221;. Sacrilege! (Although Hendrix did goof around a lot, so maybe he did say it a couple of times.) <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's is a contemporary misquoting that really gets me.  It was originally written by Marianne Williamson in, "A Return To Love" - but since Nelson Mandela used it in his acceptance speech (without giving credit to her), many people quote him as the originator! :)  It's a beautiful piece - I won't take up too much space by writing it all here, but you can find it here:
http://peacefulrivers.homestead.com/MarianneWilliamson.html

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Hi Grace, thanks for the link. It's a beautiful prayer and you're right, I Googled the first line + Mandela and came up with 60,000 hits! Amazing how fast these misquotes spread. ;)

I'm not bothered that people confuse them (sometimes the changed versions sound just as good), it's more that I'm fascinated by how the differences have come about. It's almost like it's a part of language evolving - the changes to &lt;em&gt;The Mourning Bride&lt;/em&gt;, for instance, show how our language has become more relaxed and less formal over the last 3 centuries. I find that really interesting. :)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s is a contemporary misquoting that really gets me.  It was originally written by Marianne Williamson in, &#8220;A Return To Love&#8221; - but since Nelson Mandela used it in his acceptance speech (without giving credit to her), many people quote him as the originator! <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s a beautiful piece - I won&#8217;t take up too much space by writing it all here, but you can find it here:<br />
<a href="http://peacefulrivers.homestead.com/MarianneWilliamson.html" rel="nofollow">http://peacefulrivers.homestead.com/MarianneWilliamson.html</a></p>
<p><strong>CJ: Hi Grace, thanks for the link. It&#8217;s a beautiful prayer and you&#8217;re right, I Googled the first line + Mandela and came up with 60,000 hits! Amazing how fast these misquotes spread. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;m not bothered that people confuse them (sometimes the changed versions sound just as good), it&#8217;s more that I&#8217;m fascinated by how the differences have come about. It&#8217;s almost like it&#8217;s a part of language evolving - the changes to <em>The Mourning Bride</em>, for instance, show how our language has become more relaxed and less formal over the last 3 centuries. I find that really interesting. <img src='http://cjwriter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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